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Katie wrote:

Oh, I'm not talking about Patreon protecting her work, but I am saying under U.S. Law at the very least I believe her work is protected under fair use. However what constitutes fair use is still a gray area so I am not 100%. I am basing this on what I have seen on Patreon now for a couple years and those artists work whom I also donate to have been safe with no take downs issued. I can't speak for everyone, but I have donated to Auril since the very beginning , and while I support her change of donations to monthly I wouldn't be able to donate monthly because of the services offered to donate can be a hassle. For example; I have to call my bank and tell them to lift restrictions on my account so I can donate or send money to another country. And the restriction is only lifted for 10 minutes until it is put back in place and then I need to call again. Patreon is an easy to use service which will allow more people to donate to Auril, also it will allow her to continue to do what she enjoys while receiving a steady "income" from us.


If you have to call your bank every time, you will also be at Patreon
Tell me a service from Patreon
Patreon donation optioon are credit charade, and pay pal
and you have here also the only thing on Patreon is different dui have since a link but how long the mt Paypal and Patreon well is you a big one?
Paypal does not support pornographic offers as much as I've heard
If PayPal there times behind what comes as is made, many fools will look

Again Patreon has nothing that would be worth a change only risks that never shed any of the porn material and their donor come from Paypal
can go away from tomorrow
every image clp or whatever the of a TM of a company is can be Quite quickly be soicht soge the whole account

I push all the thumbs that they do not pass but the risk is
and then we need nciht further to speak and if you do not tell me what payment you may be useful at Patreon you should synonymous with the again and again as the reason that it is therefore good


Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:05 pm
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Katie wrote:

Oh, I'm not talking about Patreon protecting her work, but I am saying under U.S. Law at the very least I believe her work is protected under fair use. However what constitutes fair use is still a gray area so I am not 100%. I am basing this on what I have seen on Patreon now for a couple years and those artists work whom I also donate to have been safe with no take downs issued. I can't speak for everyone, but I have donated to Auril since the very beginning , and while I support her change of donations to monthly I wouldn't be able to donate monthly because of the services offered to donate can be a hassle. For example; I have to call my bank and tell them to lift restrictions on my account so I can donate or send money to another country. And the restriction is only lifted for 10 minutes until it is put back in place and then I need to call again. Patreon is an easy to use service which will allow more people to donate to Auril, also it will allow her to continue to do what she enjoys while receiving a steady "income" from us.


If you have to call your bank every time, you will also be at Patreon
Tell me a service from Patreon
Patreon donation optioon are credit charade, and pay pal
and you have here also the only thing on Patreon is different dui have since a link but how long the mt Paypal and Patreon well is you a big one?
Paypal does not support pornographic offers as much as I've heard
If PayPal there times behind what comes as is made, many fools will look

Again Patreon has nothing that would be worth a change only risks that never shed any of the porn material and their donor come from Paypal
can go away from tomorrow
every image clp or whatever the of a TM of a company is can be Quite quickly be soicht soge the whole account

I push all the thumbs that they do not pass but the risk is
and then we need nciht further to speak and if you do not tell me what payment you may be useful at Patreon you should synonymous with the again and again as the reason that it is therefore good


I never once have had to call my bank with using Patreon, only when I use Aurils donation sites, because they are out of the United States.

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Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:27 am
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Katie wrote:

I never once have had to call my bank with using Patreon, only when I use Aurils donation sites, because they are out of the United States.


So that does not make sense for me because you have no other payment possible at Patreon than here and if but do not tell me Auril vielicht akn they there what to make dienst donation here to simplify
and since the statement you must at your bank just because you are out of the usa or whatever I would mcih look for another bank
I do not have anything from patreon to my aug is there more abzoge alls everything else which does not make it easy for people.

Somal it only risks for Auril has to the one the eternt betting that a Gwiser Group does not descend a large keu swing to show it its projet is
or that a certain payment option on Patreon is deleted because
The payment frima does not want to be connected with that

If this does not become as hoped as one can still change to Patron so much Auril that wants, but I would then the possibility of the possibility is here so leave and the people not to Patreon want to support them further here
which is however again more work is because a further WEP schmeite must be manget
whether and how much work that is must Auril decide if it is so far as it comes to it

I advise you about other banks to see :)

Oh, what I wanted to say, I liked your avatar :mrgreen: :P :lol:


Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:37 am
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Auril wrote:
A donation of 5e will grant access to the beta for one month. Minimum donation amount through Paysite-Cash is 10e and through Paypal, OKPAY or Yandex is 5e.


Auril wrote:
for some reason Paysite-Cash minimum amount button is €10, you get 2 months of access if you used paysite cash
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It does not seem quite understandable

there are 2 donation amounts which are there only because certain donation options only a 10 euro mindes greneze have further down does not go
except for those mentioned above by Auril mit 5 euro
when and how often you donate is your decision
yes the access to the vip area now depends on your donation with 5E one month, with 10E 2 months so that never feels unfair treated
The reason is that Auril hopes for more support
to keep her hoppy the us / most of very well and keep entertained to run and in the future more time for this project to use and which everyone clearly shcien should be better then whether it hlate or whatever

There is probably what thinks it is the 25 euro donation fixed and for a long time but that was never said so the donation was for those who did not want to wait on the reals who could with the donation at the beta and feuchte undweis If the suggestion pleases the artist and it was a matter of putting a river on the game

but Auril has never been promised any more so once Auril with pledge with promises bypassed as she that it is not always easy to keep her as well as some of us Auril is a person who does not want to make promises where she nciht whether she is the a can hold

So to all who donate yet and the project is here and who wants to make it even a lot of coming episodes to think about it to support you
it does not have to be every month shcein but if everyone of the it hangs for good and it also wants to see further in the framework as it leader it is possible here donates hc me sure that we will still see

I want to convince someone to donate it only if you want it
and because you want to continue playing here

For our small dark future with a bright view :mrgreen:


Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:13 pm
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Well, for those who have tried to argue against eachother / Auriel, why don't you read what she wrote again.

"The game would probably reach a wider audience, but there is a real chance that a certain company would take action against me and I don't want to work with this threat constantly looming over me. Being a low-profile operation has worked for Whorecraft and Tails so far, while I have not seen any actual game project that uses copyrighted assets thrive on Patreon."

Even though Auriel might be safe from being sued it would feel like "the company" is always watching and could strike at any time. If they decided to take action it would be impossible to go against their lawyers as it would be way too expencive to hire good enough lawyers to help yourself out. Additionally it takes up a lot of time so Auriel would have to just close the website, and be forced to not work on anything including assets from any of their games.

I understand that Patreon is easier for the customer but cmon. If paypal still is an option by using http://thechroniclesofalexstrasza.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3165 I don't see the issue...


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